Path: paganini.bofh.team!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!news.mixmin.net!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "NightBulb.net" Newsgroups: alt.bible Subject: Re: The jehovah witness nwt "translation" Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2022 12:18:39 -0600 Organization: Mixmin Message-ID: References: <639ca9d8$0$2259$1c4686b2@news.club.cc.cmu.edu> <53agqhlrfljvme7re452j1o15i1q9gnfni@4ax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2022 21:00:23 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: news.mixmin.net; posting-host="d193e872d1e24a3037ee30f47146a21e52b80d1b"; logging-data="1158702"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@mixmin.net" Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <53agqhlrfljvme7re452j1o15i1q9gnfni@4ax.com> Xref: paganini.bofh.team alt.bible:654261 On 12/25/22 05:08, zebra2@windstream.net wrote: > On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 14:19:10 -0600, "NightBulb.net" > wrote: > >> On 12/17/22 08:14, zebra2@windstream.net wrote: >> >>> What is God's actual name? No one knows, since God hasn't revealed it >>> yet. What NAME do you call Him? Please answer if you can. >> >> There is much to unpack and debunk in this short statement. >> >> You admit that you do not know God's actual name: >> >> "No one knows, since God hasn't revealed it yet." >> >> Since you admit that, why are you arguing over the use of Jehovah vs. >> Lord vs. Yahweh? > > "Jehovah" is a Latinized-English translation NAME. Yahweh is a > transliteration into English NAME. "Lord" is just a title. And many > Bibles make God to be a liar: You are the liar. JEHOVAH is *not* Latin, or Latinized, and does not come from Latin. JEHOVAH is unchanged ancient Hebrew found in the oldest manuscripts from 200 B.C. JEHOVAH is not a translation. JEHOVAH is a transliteration. transliteration ~ noun : 1. a transcription from one alphabet to another James repeatedly states that Jehovah is a Latinized translation. This is false. It is transliterated directly from Hebrew to English and Latin has nothing to do with it. > -- New King James > Exodus 6:3 "I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, as God > Almighty, but by My name, Lord, I was not known to them. > > Here is how it should read: > > (Exodus 6:3) And I used to appear to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as God > Almighty, but with regard to my name Jehovah I did not make myself > known to them. (NWT) Wrong. This is not how it should read. The King James rendering is correct. Why? Because the ancient Hebrew word, JEHOVAH, means the same thing as the English name, LORD. A JEHOVAH is a supreme LORD above all LORDS. "King of Kings, Lord of Lords ..." James, your logic is wrong and is based on using the ancient Hebrew title as a magic talisman. The Creator's name in Hebrew is JEHOVAH. The Creator's name in English is LORD. JEHOVAH means LORD. That is why the King James translators translated it as LORD, because they knew that is what it means, unlike you. You are not a Hebrew scholar or a trained textual critic. You are speaking from a place of ignorance on the subject, yet pretending to understand, when you don't. Your arrogance is astounding. > Has your translation made God a liar at Ex 6:3? Your religion makes God's word into a lie. You erect a religious institution that has a form of godliness but denies the power thereof. >> Since you say it isn't revealed you are just guessing and taking shots >> in the dark. >> >> But his name is revealed, beginning in the first verse of the Bible: >> >> "In the beginning ..." >> >> And then revealed through Moses as the new Name, JEHOVAH. This name is >> used copiously throughout the scripture, yet you promote the Roman myth >> that no one knows God's actual name. > > No one knows for sure what vowels were in the Tetragrammaton. So > today, no one know His true exact name. This is a lie. All competent scholars have known for many centuries what the vowels of the Tetragrammaton are. The vowel points have remained unchanged in the Tiberian pointing of the Levite Masora since their first pointed text. The vowel points of the Masora all the way up to the Ben Asher codex remained exactly the same. And the vowel points of JEHOVAH are not the vowel points of ADONAI, as some wannabe textual critics claim. That is yet another myth. The myth that the pronunciation was lost is a lie. It is made up nonsense by wannabe scholars who regurgitated myths that had no original source and no foundation in reality. >> His name is JEHOVAH. There is no mystery about the fact. All the >> "mystery" and confusion is the lies of Rome, the harlot, the mystery >> Babylon witch. Exactly true, so they can promote their YAH-WEH pronunciation, which is the exact Latin pronunciation of the chief god of the Roman pantheon of demons, IOVE. > "Jehovah" is part Latin and English. "Yahweh" is a transliteration > from Hebrew to English. It is closer to the actual name than Jehovah > is. But more people know Jehovah more so than Yahweh. This is a Roman lie invented by idiots. JEHOVAH is not Latin. YAHWEH is Latin. YAHWEH is from the Latin, IOVE, the chief of Roman demons. IOVE is pronounced YAH-WEH in ancient Latin. Any ancient Latin pronunciation chart shows this. -- Nightbulb | https://blog.nightbulb.net | Flip the night switch. If tacky red hats annoy Pharisees I want to buy hats for the whole town.