Path: paganini.bofh.team!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!news.mixmin.net!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Nightbulb.net" Newsgroups: alt.bible,alt.religion.christian.catholic,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.bible.prophecy,alt.messianic,alt.atheism Subject: Re: The Witchtower Society Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2022 23:22:42 -0500 Organization: Mixmin Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2022 04:22:06 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: news.mixmin.net; posting-host="30c133022c431ba8276fc1750ab85fb138004d8f"; logging-data="3973503"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@mixmin.net" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.9.1 Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Xref: paganini.bofh.team alt.bible:648095 alt.religion.christian.catholic:2798 alt.christnet.christianlife:1019711 alt.bible.prophecy:733369 alt.messianic:508539 alt.atheism:4728143 On 7/17/22 17:15, Robert wrote: > According to your universal theory that every person goes to heaven there is > no reason for giving anyone a bad time or to even change their lifestyle. Jesus didn't preach the gospel of a changed lifestyle. He preached the good news of salvation by his blood. No amount of change in your lifestyle can earn you a seat at the table in the wedding supper. You have to have a wedding garment on. That garment is faith in Jesus, not a changed lifestyle. Any wicked convert can change his lifestyle and become a good little Pharisee proselyte, and be twofold the child of hell as the Pharisee that converted him to religion. The Pharisees spent several generations giving everyone a really bad time for breaking God's law. They burned whores and witches like good little Puritans, stoned adulterers and blasphemers to death, and nailed Jesus to the cross. Did that get the Pharisees into God's mercy? No. Then God annihilated the Pharisees. He let Satan send the Romans to massacre a million people in and around Jerusalem. He must have let a few survive the destruction of Jerusalem, because you are here, preaching the same works-based evidentiary religion of your hypocritical Pharisee ancestors. You will notice I am giving *you* a "bad time" because you seem to believe the gospel is a 'self help' program. The gospel is the work of Jesus Christ, which he *finished* on the cross. It's not your work. It's not the church's work. It is His work. The only things we are called to add to his work is love, faith, hope, charity, and repentance by faith. Adding actual works of the law, no matter how minor, is crucifying him afresh. Repentance does not mean a change of behavior! It means a change of mind--a change of the inner man from self-justification to justification by Christ Jesus. A changed lifestyle is not proof of regeneration. Devils can play-act the game of church mouse day after day. The fruits of regeneration or damnation is the words that men speak: "And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come." "Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit." "O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh." "A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things." "But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment." "For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned."" Notice that Jesus does not say men will be justified or condemned by whether or not they sinned. That's because all men are sinners. But Jesus does say men will be justified or condemned by their words! Evil, unsaved, unregenerated men will always preach a false gospel no matter how hard they try to masquerade as righteous and pious. They will always expose themselves as liars by their words! When I meet Jesus for judgment I will have very little to say to him other than thank you sir, and that whole trip was crazy, and how did I do? It will be he who judges me, not my "changed lifestyle" setting the rules of the court. That is the way of the pagan world. It is not the way of God and he finds it highly offensive for a sinner who has broken his law to lickspittle his way into favor by claiming to have been righteous! I don't wish to be that slimy little fellow on judgment day! There will be nothing out of my mouth about how I "preached the gospel" and put in my all to "save souls." It would be blasphemous to say such things to him in that day. He knows the heart is deceitful and full of self-dealing delusions. But there are those among us who will try to razzle-dazzle Jesus with all their righteous works and their "changed lifestyle". O, pity! Then he will say to them that they are lawless and he does not know them. He will judge them by their hypocritical words of self-righteousness. Robert, everyone *does* go to heaven. The moment you die you go directly to Jesus, and are judged for the works done while in the flesh. If you were a bad boy, you are cast back into the lake of fire to be re-forged, or ground down and put back on the potter's wheel to have another go-round until Jesus is satisfied with the shape you take on. The Father gave all things into Jesus' hand until all things shall be delivered up to the Father and, "God shall be all in all." Are you going to tell this Great Judge that you were a good little keeper of the law? Do you think that line of reasoning will allow you to remain in the abode of the blessed? Did you do many wonderful works and miracles to earn a right to a seat at the table? What of the Pharisees and their love of the chief seats? Is the god that you worship so weak that he cannot save sinners? Do you really believe your tiny little "free will" is stronger than the cords of God's love? Your Christian religion has been lying to you for over 1700 years. Christianity is the kingdom of darkness. Revelation says the devil would deceive "the WHOLE world." How did he do it? Through his agent the church. The church terrorized you with lies about roasting in a eternal barbeque pit if you have bad thoughts about women's breasts or some such nonsense. What you've been blinded to is this: you are in the lake of fire and brimstone, now, today. Jesus is your way out of this hell. Jesus said: "For every one shall be *salted* with fire, and every sacrifice shall be salted with salt." Salt is the principal agent of salvation. To be salted means to be preserved or saved. Every one shall be saved by fire. The lake of fire is prepared to burn the sin out of you and leave behind pure gold. You are in that age of ages of fire and brimstone, suffering, blind, that by your suffering you may come to the end of your own pride and find the grace of God. It does not come by observation, or by church, or religion, but by the hand of God himself tempering you and chastising you to train you up into his service, *on his terms.* Your free will, or choosing, or accepting, has nothing to do with it. The Lord is a hard master to hypocrites! God is not willing that a single soul should perish, and he will not allow a single soul to perish forever: "For the Lord will not cast off for ever: But though he cause grief, yet will he have compassion according to the multitude of his mercies. For he doth not afflict willingly nor grieve the children of men." We are all enduring some of that grief in this age. But it will not be forever. The question is, do you believe God is mighty to save, or do you believe the devil is mighty to damn? Choose one. If God can save me, he can save anyone. If God saved me, he will save everyone. I was once religious. I once thought religion was the way. But now that I have the Father I see religion for what it is: a chain. "And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;" Today, church leaders are the ones with feigned words making merchandise of your eternal soul. They are the modern equivalent of the fallen messengers, the angels of Satan appearing as angels of light, bound down in religious chains of darkness. Noah, being the preacher of righteousness, preached repentance by faith, not by religion. God truly did not spare the old world, but laid waste to it and its institutions. Its messengers still torment us today in this age, but have lost the power of the burning stake and the oubliette and the rack of tortures. Instead they try to torture your conscience with religion, to make you join them in their religious misery. Through Noah God offered a way out. Every beast (nation) by twos and sevens entered the ark. Those nations that did not join Noah perished. This is a mystery. The story of Noah was a prophecy of Jesus, and the gospel being spread to the nations (beasts) by the Apostles and disciples. Then the flood (war) came, and those nations that had not received the message were decimated, foremost Judea, which had killed the prophets and the Messiah. Meanwhile your hireling wolf in sheepskin preachers dicker about Noah being an ancient history lesson and whether the flood was local or "global" and whether or not all the smelly wild animals of every species could have actually fit on a boat. The story of Noah was given as a symbolic warning about Jesus appearing to judge the world: "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only." "But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be." "For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark," "And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be."" Jesus said the same thing about the story of Jonah in the belly of the whale: "But he answered and said unto them, "An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:" "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth." "The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here."" Paul tells us the same thing about the story of Abraham, that it is an allegory and prophecy of the coming of Jesus Christ to save the saints and judge the world: "Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law? For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. Which things are an _allegory_: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all." So Robert, will you argue with the Apostle Paul, desiring to be under the law? Then you would be in bondage with Agar, striving for your changed lifestyle. Meanwhile the freeborn are free, with Jerusalem above. The Christian Church has been lying to you for many centuries about what the bible says. They have brainwashed you to believe many lies. They have slain the two witnesses that preach for 1260 years. Those two witnesses are the Old and New Testaments. The church babblers have told you that God is a vicious sadist who will burn people in literal white hot flames forever. You have to be absolutely insane and horribly brainwashed to worship such a sadistic tyrant. I know because I was religious once. I had all the religious training of a good little law-keeper fearful of the flame. Jesus said: "Upon this rock I will build my assembly and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it." Rome changed the Greek word ekklesia from assembly to "church." Jesus did not found the church. Satan did to deceive the whole world. The Church is the one-world religion of the anti-christ. It is sitting in the temple of God telling itself that it is God. It always was anti-christ. You are seeing its fruit ripen in our rotten and decaying Christian civilization. The doctrine of Hades (church paganism) shall not prevail against Christ's flock. The hell preached by your church is a trillion times worse than any atrocity you could lay at Hitler's feet, yet you swallow it obediently and claim the God of the church is love! Satan hates God the Father and accuses God of billions of eternal crimes of sadistic torture. It's nonsense. God punishes men to correct them, not to inflict sadistic torture. A changed lifestyle will not save you from your measure of that punishment. If you need to be whipped into shape, you will be whipped into shape. "We bear his stripes in our bodies." The "change of lifestyle" cult might actually prolong your stint at the whipping post. Resting in the finished work of the cross is the only ticket out of this lying hell of mirrors we call the world. Jesus said the Pharisees obsess over cleaning the outside of the cup while the inside of the cup is filled with filth. Salvation is cleaning the inside of the cup--the heart of man. The fruit test is the words that men speak. Do they preach the gospel of Jesus or the gospel of Hades? -- Nightbulb https://blog.nightbulb.net Flip the night switch