Path: paganini.bofh.team!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!news.mixmin.net!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "NightBulb.net" Newsgroups: alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.atheism,alt.bible,alt.atheism,alt.religion.christian.catholic,alt.bible.prophecy Subject: Re: The Lord Jesus was not made flesh. Followup-To: alt.bible Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2022 22:04:15 -0600 Organization: Mixmin Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2022 04:03:43 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: news.mixmin.net; posting-host="8757850635e38b036a7f53398cb691d785fe20d1"; logging-data="1722931"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@mixmin.net" Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Xref: paganini.bofh.team alt.christnet.christianlife:1039390 alt.atheism:4777951 alt.bible:653644 alt.religion.christian.catholic:5161 alt.bible.prophecy:745795 On 12/9/22 16:03, Michael McLean wrote: > The Lord Jesus Christ wasn't MADE flesh, He came in the likeness of > sinful flesh. He simply visited the flesh; it was a vessel. I caught that too. Robert, like many Christians, is still concerned with the flesh. God has so little respect for the flesh that he executed it and poured his wrath on it on the cross. "The flesh profiteth nothing." > It is no different from me going to New York and then leaving it; I > didn't become New York. > > He descended, then ascended. "Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out ..." > God is not bound, but if you do not believe the Lord Jesus Christ is > God, then the Lord Jesus is simply a lower limited 'made flesh' offshoot > son of the Father, and that is spiritual darkness and blindness. The Son existed with the Father from all eternity. The Son is half of the Father. When each of us is conceived in our mother's womb, half of the Father's DNA splits off and joins the mother's DNA. It hurt the Father to tear his half from himself and offer it to us to be abused. He was wounded for us. > For the record, we are not even "made" flesh either; are you a thing? We > are spiritual beings, so even our being transcends the vessel that we > presently reside in. He is the Father of our spirits, as it is written, not the Father of our Flesh. He also is not the Father of Jesus' flesh. Jesus was formed the same way that Adam was formed. The flesh was just a suit and was not the important part. It is the "treasure in earthen vessels" that God prizes. > What kind of "body" will there be in the future?  I don't know, but I > imagine it will be awesome - a true "spiritual body," like maybe what we > would imagine as Superman (probably greater), but don't worry about it. Better than that. The spirit can take on whatever form it wants. We will have all eternity to play around with that kind of thing. We are all one body, brother. We are all branches. leaves, flowers, and fruits of a single tree. The Father is the root, the Son is the trunk, and we are the branches. I don't mean this just as some metaphysical explanation. We are in the actual sense of spiritual substance, one organism. Different parts of the great living being who bore us have different properties and characteristics, but are all one part of a great whole. This unity is the meaning of the name, Elohim. Hear, O Israel, Jehovah our Elohim is One. Elohim is plural for El, and it means a tree. A family tree. "The whole family of God in heaven and in earth ..." Imagine God as a magnificent flying eagle. We are the feathers, claws, talons, and Jesus is the wings and the Father is the head. Refer to my earlier post about wine bottles all having the same wine from the same vine. This is why the Father put us through all this trouble in these ages of centuries. He is clothing himself with a tabernacle. We are being transformed into his robe of righteousness. Remember how David wanted to build Him a temple? And the Father told David that he will build his own temple? We're the bricks--living stones, fitly framed together into a habitation for the Spirit. It is written that we should not build an altar with hewn stone (religion, force, uniformity). It has to be unhewn stone (unique), each stone fashioned by God. When we are raised up and quickened, we will all see it. The Apostle phrased it as: "Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is." Paul said: "For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known." Our individual separation is an illusion of time in this lower realm where our consciousness has been imprisoned. When our spirits are finally free we will all be part of one glorious body bigger than the human mind can imagine--bigger and brighter and more glorious than the entire visible universe. God's body will have more moving parts than is imaginable, all bound together in the substance of one Spirit. -- Nightbulb | https://blog.nightbulb.net | Flip the night switch. If tacky red hats annoy Pharisees I want to buy hats for the whole town.