Path: paganini.bofh.team!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!news.mixmin.net!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "NightBulb.net" Newsgroups: alt.bible Subject: Jesus is a Quickening Spirit Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2022 11:30:55 -0600 Organization: Mixmin Message-ID: References: <63936c87$0$2254$1c4686b2@news.club.cc.cmu.edu> <7ohcqh5krnon3tempba7rdpqqer0salmcb@4ax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2022 21:00:05 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: news.mixmin.net; posting-host="d193e872d1e24a3037ee30f47146a21e52b80d1b"; logging-data="1158702"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@mixmin.net" Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <7ohcqh5krnon3tempba7rdpqqer0salmcb@4ax.com> Xref: paganini.bofh.team alt.bible:654244 On 12/23/22 18:34, isten@biteme.com wrote: > On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 16:10:22 -0600, "NightBulb.net" > wrote: > >> "And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy >> hands I commend my spirit ..." > > Your flesh is limited, your spirit is unlimited. The Spirit within man, his breath of life, comes from the Father and it is subject to the Father. >> Jesus was made a Spirit: > > Bzzzz... wriong. Jesus was 100% human and 100% divine. He touched > things... He existed. He was not simply a spirit. It is written, "... the last Adam was made a quickening spirit." You are reading words that are not there. Jesus was first a spirit in heaven before he came into the world. He existed in the Father before he was born into the flesh. He rose from the dead in the same natural body. Then He ascended as a "life-giving (quickening) Spirit." His body is glorified into a spiritual body, so it will never see corruption. "It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven. As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly. And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly." >> Father of what? > > The Father, one person of the Trinity that created all that you are > and all that you see. The scripture says at least twice that he is the Father of our Spirits. He is NOT the father of our flesh. The flesh is just a vessel. > With God, all things are possible including making The Word, the > second person of the Trinity, incarnate as Man... to suffer with men > without committing sin,to atones for all of man's sins. > > By the way, the Latin Transaltion of the bible dates from 700 AD. It > is called the Masoretic text. The Orthodox faith follows the > Septuagint dating for abour 300 BC. You can thank Alexander the Great > for the fact that it is written in Greek. No other reason. The Masoretic Text is Hebrew and Aramaic, not Latin. The Masoretic Text was maintained by the Sephardi Jews, or the Masoretes, not the Romans. By calling it the "Latin Translation" you are mistaken. > Westerners, with the drive for rationalism to explain everything, > forget that Christinaity is an Eastern. mystical religion. There are > things that God has not shown us... yet. Christianity is not an eastern religion. It is the faith of the Saints of all nations, and came out of Judea, which is as far west as one can get from the cradle of the eastern religions, since its west coast is the Mediterranean. The original faith of Moses and the Saints did not borrow anything from pagan sources, as the lying liberals try to say. The Hebrew bible does mock the pagan sources, but does not borrow from them. -- Nightbulb | https://blog.nightbulb.net | Flip the night switch. If tacky red hats annoy Pharisees I want to buy hats for the whole town.