Path: paganini.bofh.team!tor-network!not-for-mail From: "NightBulb.net" Newsgroups: alt.bible Subject: Re: Corrected: Few will be saved Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2023 01:23:45 -0500 Organization: To protect and to server Message-ID: <20231019012345.0c7de028.nospam@nightbulb.net> References: <6517016c$0$2245$1c4686b2@news.club.cc.cmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: paganini.bofh.team; logging-data="82410"; posting-host="/OkDI06stkokim4ZBXLPXQ.user.paganini.bofh.team"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@bofh.team"; posting-account="9dIQLXBM7WM9KzA+yjdR4A"; Cancel-Lock: sha256:tWeqx5ON3m0Sbz2sdRs395h/lcW6hKRmOoZYcsMmBGw= X-TOR-Router: sha256:NDUuMTQxLjIxNS4yMDA= -- X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.3 Xref: paganini.bofh.team alt.bible:663398 On Mon, 02 Oct 2023 12:59:58 -0700 No one wrote: > one. Heb. echad (S# H259): A numeral from S# H258; properly united, > that is, one; or (as an ordinal) first (Strong); it means one in the > Contrast yahed, *S# H3173, unique, a single or only one: Gen 22:2; > Gen 22:12; Gen 22:16, Jdg 11:34, +Psa 22:20; Psa 25:16; Psa 35:17; > Psa 68:6, Pro 4:3, Jer 6:26, Amo 8:10, Zec 12:10, See Psa 133:1, "One > in essence, and the only object of our worship" (Matthew Poole). Here we see Strong's, as usual, making a wide berth for the trinitarian interpretation of these words, such interpretation completely non-existent when Deuteronomy was first penned, and non-existent when quoted by the New Testament writer. The "compound unity" interpretation is pure bunk invented by trinitarians much later. Mark 12:29 denudes this trinitarian nonsense interpretation of ECHAD. Strongs has many wrong interpretations of the ancient Hebrew, because Strong merely compiles how translators have translated it, and does not attempt to scholastically nail down the definitive, actual meaning of the ancient words. Just pulling out a Strongs number reference does not constitute accurate translation. That is eisegesis, not textual criticism. We do know that in Mark 12:29 the Greek word is HEIS, and means a singular and unique one, not a plurality or composite. It sure as hell doesn't mean one of a group. The sense of the Greek HEIS as used there indicates singularity. As used in the Hebrew Shema, ECHAD is synonymous with and derived from YACHID, which means, "alone", absolutely unique, or "one and only." Jesus verifies this for us: "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee THE ONLY true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." (John 17:3) In this verse Jesus makes it crystal clear that he himself is NOT God, and that only the Father Jehovah is God. Your conflation of the godhead with the imaginary trinity is a lie and an idol. The Godhead is the order of authority, and is not a description of some mystical substantial nature of God. Jesus said, "All power is given to me ..." and the "godhead" is simply this order of authority and nothing more. The body is the body of Christ, or the saints, and the head of the body is the Father and the Son. Even using the word, "Godhead" is an admission that there is a body, and we believers are members of that body, joined to the head. Jesus and the man were discussing the Hebrew version and not the Septuagint version of Deuteronomy 6:4 and we know this by the Greek wording in the New Testament. The most accurate translation of Deuteronomy 6:4 from Hebrew to English is: "Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD alone." There is nothing of your trinity idol to be found in there. The 1599 Geneva Bible translation reads: "Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is Lord only." "Alone" or "only" is the PRIMARY sense of the Hebrew ECHAD. The secondary meaning of ECHAD is "unique." If you get tripped up by relying solely on Strong's Concordance you will get the wrong impression and misunderstand the scripture. Deuteronomy 6:4 was not given as a prooftext about the "nature" of God or his substance. The verse was given as an explanation of Israel's relationship to the Father being the only God to them, a re-iteration and distillation of the first commandment of the decalogue, "I am the Lord thy God ... thou shalt have no other gods ..." . Using it as a trinitarian prooftext is just wrong on many levels. Like Jesus, Paul says only the Father is God: "But to us there is but one God, the Father ..." (1 Corinthians 8:6) Jesus Christ is nowhere called God in the Bible. He is the Supreme Lord, carrying the authority of God as the Heir, but Jesus is never identified as God. The little goats of Christendumb need to stop playing the game of Churches because they're full of confusion. The Spirit of Jezebel and Babylon has moved from Babel to Israel to Rome, and now infected all of Christendumb with the ancient trinitarian god of the pagans, Hermes Trismigistus, AKA Horus, AKA Nimrod, who is that old rebel serpent that Jesus warns us about. There is only one God, Jehovah Elohim. He is God alone. There is no other God formed before Him, and no other will be formed after Him: "(Exodus 34:14) For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is jealous, is a jealous God ..." Jehovah CREATED Jesus Christ, and then begot Christ in the spirit to be the Lamb to take away the sin of the whole world. First by casting off Israel in blindness to provoke her to jealousy, then by grafting in the other nations (Gentiles) so that all nations are the Israel of God by faith. So the last shall be first, and the first (Israel) shall be last. God used Israel to save all nations. As all nations are saved by him, at the very end the blindness will be removed from Israel and they will see what God has done, and everyone will be happy in the end. Israel will finally understand that God's love is boundless, and not at all insular. Even as men love their own children, God loves all nations, even the baddies and the street punks and the whiny tots with the terrible twos. God is no respecter of persons, and used Israel to conclude all mankind under the Law, and convict all nations of sin, so all nations could be saved, not just Israel. Since Israel screwed up royally, God won't play favorites. "Not of works, lest any should boast." Christendom has been complicit in this crime of Israel, by Judaizing all of humanity, thus bringing all nations under the yoke of the Law and its condemnation. Since they all acceded to the Law, now they all get to claim Jesus as their Savior from its penalty. So first the Israel of God was a stiff-necked nation that rarely obeyed him and went whoring after false gods. Then Israel was a tiny flock of believers who followed Jesus. Then the gospel was taken to all nations, and all nations heard the gospel, and many believed, but very soon after all the nations went whoring after idols and even after the Law of Moses, coming under condemnation of the Law. So now God can save them all without his word returning to him void. Israel's idolatry was used by God to undo the idolatry of all nations. All nations are thus grafted in to become the Israel of God. As all mankind was of Adam, so then all mankind shall become Israel by the faith of Abraham, through the blood of Jesus Christ. As I have said many times, "Salvation is of the Lord", explaining to you that salvation is what THE LORD IS DOING, not something that you are doing in your religions, or by your holy choice, or by your own faith, or your own belief. The Lord is doing it all. The Lord is saving. The Lord has saved. The Lord is Salvation. Even Jesus' name means, "The Lord is Salvation" or "The Lord our Salvation." God is doing the saving. Your religious institutions have nothing to do with the Great Commission or the saving of souls. You're all playing a cargo cult game pretending to carry out a work that was finished at the cross and after Pentecost. God and Jesus and the chosen Apostles already worked all of it out 1950 years ago! -- NightBulb | https://nightbulb.net | Flip the night switch.